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Thread: Caffeine....someone asked about getting off of soda (pop) and coffee.

  1. #1
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    Caffeine....someone asked about getting off of soda (pop) and coffee.

    For every can of soda, your body withdraws 20mg of calcium from the bones

    Soda has a pH of about 1.5 and normal blood pH is between 7.2 to 7.4

    It takes 32 glasses of alkaline water at a pH of 9 to neutralize the acid in ONE 12 oz can of soda. Most people don't drink 32 glasses of water, and if they do, it's just regular water, not water that has been alkalinized. So in order to keep your blood at a neutral pH, your body uses For every can of soda, your body withdraws 20mg of calcium from the bones
    When your body is an extremely acidic state, is when disease develops.

    Soda pop is a beverage of negative nutritional value. By failing to supply vitamins and nutrients required for its own metabolism it depletes vital resources, negatively impacts dietary choices and directly damages the body.

    If you look at the list of ingredients in most soda pop, you will likely see most or all of these listed:

    • High Fructose Corn Syrup- Since the 1990's High Fructose Corn Sweetner, has been used in most non-diet soda and packaged foods, including fruit drinks, instead of sugar, due to it's low cost. High Fructose Corn Sweetner is made from chemically engineered corn and will definitely pack on weight faster than sugar. High fructose corn syrup leads to increased risk of heart disease, osteoporosis, Adult Onset Diabetes Mellitus, can elevate insulin levels in women on the pill, anemia, defective connective tissue formation, and also accelerates aging, among other things. Fructose contributes to the obesity epidemic by increasing the appetite making one feel hungrier and does nothing to help control body weight.
    • Sugar in particular is destructive because its ingestion lowers immune function by reducing the ability of white blood cells to ingest and destroy bacteria. This lowered immune function can last for five hours or more after the ingestions of sugar (2).
    • Caffeine and sugar both cause dehydration, and the massive depletion of minerals. Caffeine by itself- calcium excretion in the urine increases by 25%. When sugar was added, urinary calcium loss almost doubled (1). Calcium can be withdrawn from the bones and teeth.
    • Diet pop may contain Aspartame ( Nutra Sweet) which has an alarming health record or Sucralose, also marketed as Splenda, which breaks down into small amounts of 1,6 -dichlorofructose, a chemical similar to chlorinated pesticides. There has not been adequate testing of this product before it was released for public use, and many of the post-approval studies are alarming.
    • acesulfame-k is a dangerous chemical.
    • Carbonated water. Our bodies require oxygen to remain healthy. For every can of carbonated soda ingested, the amount of oxygen in the blood is decreased by 25% for up to three hours. If you are drinking several sodas per day, you are depriving yourself for a significant amount of oxygen.
    • Phosphoric acid When too much is in the blood, calcium is leached from the bones, causing osteoporosis. Calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus must be maintained in the proper balance for bone health. Even in citrus sodas which contain citric acid instead of phosphoric acid, calcium is needed to normalize blood pH. The fastest growing group of people with osteoporosis in this country is teenagers....because of the huge number of sodas they consume.

    The Department of Health lists caffeine along with nicotine and heroin as an addictive substance. Caffeine is also a real stress on the body--one that has a negative effect on your metabolism. The anti-stress hormones are the substances that prepare your body for an appropriate reaction to stress.*

    Caffeine causes the release of these anti-stress hormones. Eventually the body's supply of these hormones is depleted. *When that happens you begin to notice symptoms: fatigue, headaches, irritability and a general run-down feeling. What you aren't noticing is that due to the depletion of the anti-stress hormones, your metabolism is slowing down and your ability to burn calories has been compromised. You simply can't lose weight effectively.

    *Stress which makes us have big ol' guts (cortisol) even if we aren't eating a lot. When Cortisol is consistently released into the blood stream the digestive system becomes weak and unable to alert the liver that the stomach is full.

    Cortisol causes a blood sugar flux that sparks carb cravings so intense that sticking to a diet is nearly impossible

    Most of us know that caffeine is addicting, but do you have any idea what caffeine really does to us?

    Caffeine is a mild central nervous system stimulant and can cause can cause:

    • Rapid heartbeat
    • Irritability
    • Insomnia
    • Anxiety and nervousness
    • Dehydration from diuresis (that irksome need to pee in large quantities)
    • Indigestion
    • Lack of concentration
    • Muscle twitching

    Some people get used to these negative side effects and find that they need more and more caffeine to bring on the stimulation they crave. Since caffeine is addictive, withdrawal often causes headache, irritability, insomnia and lack of concentration.

    Caffeine in foods

    Average caffeine concentration in common foods:

    • Brewed coffee (5 ounces): 115 mg
    • Diet Coke (12-ounce can): 41 mg
    • Iced tea (12 ounces): 15 mg
    • Brewed decaf coffee (5 ounces): 3 mg
    • Two Excedrin: 130 mg
    • Caffeinated water (8 ounces): 70 mg
    • Brewed tea (5 ounces): 31 mg
    • Espresso (1 ounce): 35 mg
    • Chocolate candy bar (1 ounce): 20 mg

    The amount necessary to cause changes in our body is 100 mg.
    If your coffee mug is 5 ounces or larger, you're using caffeine as a drug every time you take a sip. Children, being smaller, are affected by even lower doses of caffeine. Instead of blaming your child's erratic behavior on the sugar in soda, think about the caffeine instead.

    How much is too much?

    Most experts agree that moderate caffeine intake, 200-300 mg per day or about three cups of coffee, has no long-term health implications. Caffeine is excreted within a few hours and does not build up in our body. Pregnant women are advised to keep caffeine intake low to prevent any risk of pre-term delivery or spontaneous abortion.

    Sensitive individuals who experience increased heart rate from caffeine will want to steer clear of all products that contain it.

    Caffeine is in many foods and labeling regulations do not require that caffeine be listed. Because of the widely varying amounts of caffeine present in foods, it is impossible to know for sure how much you actually consume each day. Since we don't need caffeine for good health, it's best to practice moderation.
    Limit coffee to no more than three 8 oz. cups (that's 24 fluid ounces) each day. Steer clear of any product advertising that it has caffeine where you wouldn't normally expect it (for example, caffeinated water, coffee-flavored yogurt with caffeine, or soda with caffeiene).


    Caffeine is a wonderful dehydrator for your skin. A natural diuretic, it quickly makes you eliminate that awful water that keeps your skin plumped up. After all, who wants nice, soft, youthful looking skin when they can have lovely wrinkles (creases)?

    When you put food in a food dehydrator what happens? It takes the water out and it is leathery looking, right? Raisin and prunes were great looking grapes and plums before they were dehydrated!

    Dehydration in the summer is deadly as it weakens the heart. The heart is something like 1/3 water. Remove the water and many heart attacks happen in the heat.

    Caffeine, as it dehydrates us, makes us crave more liquid and thinking pop or tea are liquids we drink more of them (A vicious cycle.)

    Soda (pop) sweeteners are:


    All the junk that is in prepared and packaged food makes me more aware that we should be eating closer to the earth. See how good these are for us:
    Last edited by girltalk; 08-09-2007 at 09:21 AM.

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    Soda (pop) contains High Fructose Corn Sweeteners (NOT GOOD!)

    High Fructose Corn Syrup made by treating corn (which is usually genetically modified corn) with a variety of enzymes, is cheaper than most other sweeteners. A 12 ounce soda can contain as much as 13 teaspoons of sugar in the form of high fructose corn syrup. One 20-ounce bottle of Coke, Pepsi, Mt Dew, Sprite or Dr. Pepper is the equivalent of pouring 17 teaspoons of sugar straight into your body. Women who drink at least one regular soda a day are 85 percent more likely to develop type 2 diabetes than those who drink less. It also leads to tooth decay.

    High fructose corn sweeteners is one of the reasons that we are seeing epidemic obesity. Fructose does not stimulate insulin production and also fails turn off the appetite and control body weight. Also, fructose does not suppress ghrelin, a hormone that works to increase hunger.

    Some of the problems associated with high fructose corn syrup:
    • Increased LDL's (the bad lipoprotein) leading to increased risk of heart disease.
    • Altered Magnesium balance leading to increased osteoporosis.
    • Increased risk of Adult Onset Diabetes Mellitus.
    • Fructose interacts with birth control pills and can elevate insulin levels in women on the pill.
    • Accelerated aging.
    • Fructose inhibits copper metabolism leading to a deficiency of copper, which can cause increased bone fragility, anemia, ischemic heart disease and defective connective tissue formation among others.

    It is hard to find a food product at the grocery store or McDonalds that is not loaded with HFCS. HFCS is the leading ingredient after carbonated water in these beverages.

    High Fructose Corn Syrup is found in fruit drinks like Capri Sun, Sunny Delight, Snapple, Hawaiian Punch, Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice and in most energy drinks. It is also found in chocolate drinks like Yoohoo, Arizona Tea, SoBe Beverages, cookies, ice cream, Campbell soup, Heinz Ketchup, Ragu, Aunt Jemima Syrup, Hershey's Syrup, Breyers Yogurt, Kraft Barbecue Sauce, Smucker's Preserves and some breakfast cereals.

    Since the 1990’s, virtually all non-diet soft drinks — including most popular fruit juices and sports drinks — have been sweetened with high–fructose corn syrup (HFCS). Corn sweeteners, primarily HFCS, have eclipsed regular sugar as the ingredient of choice for beverage and food manufacturers, with the exception of some few “micro-brewed” sodas.

    HFCS and other manipulated fructose sugars can undermine your metabolism, leading to weight gain, high triglyceride levels, type 2 diabetes, hypertension and obesity. Research continues to show that overconsumption of these altered sugars is a growing health hazard — at the same time food manufacturers make it increasingly hard to avoid them!

    Look at five random soft drinks — including juices and enhanced waters — and read the label. Chances are the first or second ingredient will be HFCS. Look at the labels of other items in which you would never expect to find any sweeteners, like ketchup, tomato sauce, cereal, and crackers. HCFS is everywhere; in one day it is entirely possible that 80% of the processed food you consume is full of HCFS.
    Last edited by girltalk; 04-01-2007 at 08:43 AM.

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    Feb 2004
    I went to the dentist yesterday to have my teeth cleaned. There was a brochure on soda pop and tooth decay. You gotta see this:

    That picture of the 16-year-old who had no cavities last year: zip, zero, zilch, nada. The picture is of the same person's teeth one year later with 15 cavities.

    Be sure to click on where it says to view the acid content. Look at how Pepsi is much closer to battery acid than to water.

  4. #4
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    Apr 2001

    people w/ migraines or acne - NO CAFFEINE!

    i mentioned caffeine in one of my posts about someone with migraines. for those of you who have migraines, caffeine is normally either a migraine trigger or a migraine fix. that's why doctors tell you NOT to have any caffeine when you have migraines. they also try you on stuff like fiorinet and fiorical, etc., as abortive medications. they are basically caffeine pills. for me, caffeine is neither a fix nor a trigger.

    people with acne should also not have any caffeine, as this makes acne worse. caffeine also causes bad breath. did you ever notice how bad a chronic coffee drinker's breath can be? that's why.

    and yes, when you are thirsty, things like soda with lots of sweeteners only make you thirstier. that's when you need to drink water.

    and for those of you who do NOT know this - no caffeine also = no chocolate.

    (i didn't read the whole post, so if anything is a "repeat" sorry, but i thought i'd add this. i don't drink soda or have caffeine, so this doesn't apply to me, but i wanted to let others know.)
    Last edited by zavey; 05-05-2007 at 10:36 AM.

  5. #5
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    Apr 2001

    cutting down

    caffeine is addictive, just like nicotine. if you can't stop the caffeine, like you can't stop smoking, then you do have problem which is an addiction. if you have problems cutting it down or out of your diet completely, a lot of people do the following:

    cut their drinks down gradually by watering them down with water. i.e., if you drink soda w/ caffeine, start adding 1/4 part water or 1/3 part water until you get the point where you can either switch to caffeine free or cut it out of your diet completely, which is better for you. and a lot parents now do this with their children, esp. because of all the advertising for soda. when your child is small and you go out to eat and they insist on soda: if you let them have it, water if down halfway so it's 1/2 soda and 1/2 water. i do this with my fruit juice. i only buy 100% juice and take a look at the label, it has a LOT of sugar and it just tastes too sweet to me... so i normally add about 1/3 - 1/2 water to my glass... or take another container or one twice of the size the juice came in and make one bottle into two bottles by mixing it with water, so it's half water/half juice or one big bottle.

    obviously, stay away from any drinks with caffeine such as soda, coffee, tea, iced, tea; and stay away from ANYTHING chocolate or chocolate flavored.

  6. #6
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    Feb 2004
    Did anyone see Dr. Phil yesterday with Lorna who weighed 650 lbs? She ate little but drank 3 big bottles of pop a day. Could it be the high fructose corn sweeteners packing on the weight?
    Last edited by girltalk; 05-05-2007 at 12:00 PM.

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